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Post by Aleksandar on Aug 14, 2013 9:14:06 GMT 1
Blitzkrieg III video stills from official trailer, there are NOT actual screenshots by Nival. 1. IL2 going down (check out the grass, effects of explosion and old friend - house on the left. 2. Bf-109, the one that shot IL-2 seen above, see particles flying around 3. Heavy tanks lead the way: I can recognize IS-2, IS-3 and tractor in the field? Check out water hole on the left, edges are not smooth = less polygons = better performance, yes!
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Post by Aleksandar on Aug 14, 2013 9:19:41 GMT 1
4. Railway station going to ashes - check out glass flying around 5. T-34/85, IS-2 and T-70(?) join infantry in assault 6. Crossroad casualty - I think this was BMW motorcycle once
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Post by Aleksandar on Aug 14, 2013 9:32:59 GMT 1
7. Bf-109 going to flames - that house on the far right looks familiar? 8. The last moments of T-34/85. Infantry looks familiar as well? 9. Close-call. That house on the right reminds me a bit of e_houses from BKI - which is good
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Post by Aleksandar on Aug 14, 2013 9:35:52 GMT 1
10. Seconds before this Tiger and bunker succumb to the Katyusha power 11. Tiger blocking the way! 12. Za Rodinu!
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Post by Aleksandar on Aug 14, 2013 9:39:16 GMT 1
13. Yes! No more regular panzers, finally modifications with extra armor are in (Pz. III N?) 14. And there it goes into scrap metal 15. Opel-Blitz, something in the back of it
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Post by Jagged Steel on Aug 14, 2013 14:10:47 GMT 1
I voted "good" based on what can be seen in the screenshots. The #1 thing that I don't like is the limited zoom out. This is more of an FPS type of view. This looks about like Panzers zoom out level and does not capture the feel of BK at all in my opinion. In order to play armchair general you need to see more of the battlefield. Zooming in and seeing fine detail is all fine and dandy, but what is really needed is the ability to ZOOM OUT! Why do the developers of these RTS games not understand this??? Visually,everything else is all I could ever have hoped for in a new BK, but without that ability to see more of the battlefield I fear this game might get shelved right next to Panzers in my collection.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2013 14:21:01 GMT 1
I voted "good" based on what can be seen in the screenshots. The #1 thing that I don't like is the limited zoom out. This is more of an FPS type of view. This looks about like Panzers zoom out level and does not capture the feel of BK at all in my opinion. In order to play armchair general you need to see more of the battlefield. Zooming in and seeing fine detail is all fine and dandy, but what is really needed is the ability to ZOOM OUT! Why do the developers of these RTS games not understand this??? Visually,everything else is all I could ever have hoped for in a new BK, but without that ability to see more of the battlefield I fear this game might get shelved right next to Panzers in my collection. Like that or less?
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Post by Jagged Steel on Aug 14, 2013 14:27:28 GMT 1
That level of zoom is exactly what I am talking about Kevin. I am not familiar with that game you showed, which one is it?
Edit to add: I understand wanting to show off all of the fancy models and textures, but this is supposed to be a Real Time Strategy game not a Real Time Tactical game, and these limited zooms are a tactical view of the battlefield.
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Post by Aleksandar on Aug 14, 2013 14:48:33 GMT 1
I voted "good" based on what can be seen in the screenshots. The #1 thing that I don't like is the limited zoom out. This is more of an FPS type of view. This looks about like Panzers zoom out level and does not capture the feel of BK at all in my opinion. In order to play armchair general you need to see more of the battlefield. Zooming in and seeing fine detail is all fine and dandy, but what is really needed is the ability to ZOOM OUT! Why do the developers of these RTS games not understand this??? Visually,everything else is all I could ever have hoped for in a new BK, but without that ability to see more of the battlefield I fear this game might get shelved right next to Panzers in my collection. Blitzkrieg is RTT, CoH is RTS, there is a difference. I do believe they will include larger zoom in/out, what's the point of being able to see only small fraction of the battlefield without possibility to do larger scale assaults/tactics? They have probably zoomed in screens and videos to show graphics and to avoid showing any unfinished parts.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2013 15:01:27 GMT 1
I voted "good" based on what can be seen in the screenshots. The #1 thing that I don't like is the limited zoom out. This is more of an FPS type of view. This looks about like Panzers zoom out level and does not capture the feel of BK at all in my opinion. In order to play armchair general you need to see more of the battlefield. Zooming in and seeing fine detail is all fine and dandy, but what is really needed is the ability to ZOOM OUT! Why do the developers of these RTS games not understand this??? Visually,everything else is all I could ever have hoped for in a new BK, but without that ability to see more of the battlefield I fear this game might get shelved right next to Panzers in my collection. They have probably zoomed in screens and videos to show graphics and to avoid showing any unfinished parts. That's it. I personally wouldn't like a Wargame: EE or AB game, but if you can have B1's original camera zoom as well as a zoom out and zoom in I think it should work. We also have to consider that Wargame's maps are much bigger than Blitzkrieg's.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2013 15:03:08 GMT 1
Apparently though on the Union forums some members have said the IS-3 is actually an T-10/T-10M placeholder for the IS-3. I agree with this as the form resembles the T-10/M more so than the IS-3. You can see the comparison here:
Regards, Well, then it is not a "what if" or "1946" map as some users in the official forum stated, let's remember IS-3 wasn't used in the WWII. Good eye there.
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Post by Jagged Steel on Aug 14, 2013 18:37:52 GMT 1
Blitzkrieg is RTT, CoH is RTS, there is a difference. I do believe they will include larger zoom in/out, what's the point of being able to see only small fraction of the battlefield without possibility to do larger scale assaults/tactics? They have probably zoomed in screens and videos to show graphics and to avoid showing any unfinished parts. BK is definitely an RTS game. This is directly from the Nival site: I know a lot of people want to think otherwise, but BK does have a resource based economy and is thus a 4X RTS game . The economy resources consist of infantry replacements, ammunition replacements, mines, obstacles, vehicle repair supplies, paratroopers, and scripted reinforcements, sometimes built into specific triggers based on a variety of factors including area control and kill count.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2013 19:38:35 GMT 1
In that time the real time tactics wasn't invented as I recall. The whole was called RTS. Like Sudden Strike, and Close Combat etc. But it does not matter how we call it..Its the game quality and fun that counts at the end. And as MP allready stated, lets keep positive! The game is just announced, it looks great when I see the screenshots. We must keep openminded to new inventions, or are we a conservative lot? :/ Its important to point out the positive we see in the game, and following a positive line, we achieve more than following the negative.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2013 19:41:49 GMT 1
Oh, and i want to point out the game is in a very early stage, as we know the creators of this game are quite well informed about what vehicles drove around in WWII, the video was made in a very short time to give all fans an idea in what direction this goes. its pointless in evaluating the vehicle's right now. Just wait and see. And when some mistakes are found, the more we modders have to do
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Post by Scyooff on Aug 14, 2013 19:58:30 GMT 1
In my point of view, what we see in the screens is beautiful, so i'm optimist
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