Post by Major Pain on Feb 24, 2012 2:29:17 GMT 1
Oh yes.... the OODA loop... Observe, orient, decide, act
In the Fire Service we use a slightly different variant (or off-shoot) of OODA, called the PDCA Cycle (Plan Do Check Act). During my years as a smoke jumper, we used OODA, but found it difficult to utilize as intended compared to humanistic targets.
The fact that you keep your nemesis off-center by disrupting his intell, via feeding false data, while taking advantage of what he knows, and what he thinks he knows, along with what you know you are doing to him.... gives you a distinct advantage on the battlefield. Before the target understands what is true, and what is false, it is all over... The goal is to take advantage of the confusion you have caused, which makes the opponet under-react, over react, or not react. As the opponet continues to make decisions based on somewhat invalid or totally unrealiable data, you rope him into reacting rather than being proactive. If you allow true data to go through the chain, they are likely to not trust it and react accordingly... opposite of what would be prudent.
Remember the M1 Abrams crossing the bridge into Bagdad as the Iraqi Public Information Officer was giving a live televised interview stating no US Forces were close to Bagdad? They just didn't realize what was going on until their eyes (and the CNN reporters) told them.
________________________________________________
PIO: "There are no US forces anywhere close to Bagdag. All is under our control. Our army has defeated the US forces handily as they crossed into our country."
CNN Reporter: "Hey Isn't that a US Tank?"
PIO: "No, no, no... I assure you it is not..."
CNN Reporter: 'Look, crossing the bridge, that's a US Tank! There's another... and another... and...."
PIO: "No, no, I assure you that we captured a few US tanks. Those are the ones..."
CNN Reporter: "Isn't that Chuck Norris on the turret?"
PIO: "I have to go boys... I'm late for... dinner..."
___________________________________________________
In our variant of OODA, PDCA, we base our operational goals on known or unknown factors. Much of what we do is based upon situational awareness and outcomes based on prior knowledge, skill and abilities (KSAs).
We know how a structure fire goes through evolutions and cycles; Unless we disrupt the cycle (chemical chain reaction), we know the outcome is total destruction. The unknown factor is the fuel loading; how much combustible product (Furniture, wood, paper, etc...) is in the container (the house). Other factors that we cannot know are things like combustible fluids or solids used for various household uses; alcohol based cleaners, aerosol cans, fuel storage for heating, powdered grains or meal, cooking oils & grease, etc... Think about what is typically in your house, and consider whether it can flash, explode or gas off and create toxic fumes.
So we PLAN: Establish the operational goals in accordance with an expected outcome. This plan is usually based on our KSAs, or what we have experienced before.
Then we DO: The Plan is initiated; we put into motion a series of tactical level functions. We also observe and collect data for ongoing analysis.
Then we CHECK: Are the tactics within the scope of the operational plan having the desired effect. Are we reaching the operational goals of the plan and is the data collected reflective of the actual effect.
Then we ACT: Do we need to modify our tactics or stay the course? This is where we make corrective adjustments to the tactics as we continue to move through the cycle.
The cycle repeats until operational goals are accomplished or circumstances go beyond the scope of the original plan.
Anyway, you are quite correct, sometimes it is a lot more fun to play with the PDCA Cycle and tactical theory behind various events.
We use table-top situational trainings and simulators to train our officers. This is where they will learn the tactical level of the operation. Nothing like making these guys sweat... just makes my day.
This is not the same as being one of the guys carrying out the actual tactics. PDCA is where you better know how the individual tactics on various levels interface or inter-connect as they are applied. One wrong move and you can lose some people.
I'm sure we all have seen Ladder 49 and Backdraft. Ok, those are Hollywood action films. In a real backdraft, we must be able to read the signs from observation, not from exploration. The level of tactical agressiveness is much different as the situation changes, and a Backdraft is at the top of the food chain. We do not risk lives if there are no lives to save. Meaning: we won't insert rescue teams into a structure if it is known there is no one inside to rescue, or conditions exist that are not condusive for survival, (ours or yours).
If the situation presented is a densely smoke-filled container with ambient temperatures around 1200 degrees F, you're already dead if you are inside. Our operational plan is based on what we know about this event. Tactics will be: ventilate the container vertically, begin suppression as close to the base of the fire without disrupting the thermal layering. We don't want it to go boom. The immediate goal is to reverse the temperature rise by allowing the hot gases to escape through our vent, thus allowing a cool-down.
Ok... enough about that...
It's those little scripting syntax errors that will drive you crazy....
MissionFinished() works for me... sounds right... it clearly describes what I want it to do.... damn computer.
Sorry for bummin your topic... I'll shut up and sit over here for a while...
In the Fire Service we use a slightly different variant (or off-shoot) of OODA, called the PDCA Cycle (Plan Do Check Act). During my years as a smoke jumper, we used OODA, but found it difficult to utilize as intended compared to humanistic targets.
The fact that you keep your nemesis off-center by disrupting his intell, via feeding false data, while taking advantage of what he knows, and what he thinks he knows, along with what you know you are doing to him.... gives you a distinct advantage on the battlefield. Before the target understands what is true, and what is false, it is all over... The goal is to take advantage of the confusion you have caused, which makes the opponet under-react, over react, or not react. As the opponet continues to make decisions based on somewhat invalid or totally unrealiable data, you rope him into reacting rather than being proactive. If you allow true data to go through the chain, they are likely to not trust it and react accordingly... opposite of what would be prudent.
Remember the M1 Abrams crossing the bridge into Bagdad as the Iraqi Public Information Officer was giving a live televised interview stating no US Forces were close to Bagdad? They just didn't realize what was going on until their eyes (and the CNN reporters) told them.
________________________________________________
PIO: "There are no US forces anywhere close to Bagdag. All is under our control. Our army has defeated the US forces handily as they crossed into our country."
CNN Reporter: "Hey Isn't that a US Tank?"
PIO: "No, no, no... I assure you it is not..."
CNN Reporter: 'Look, crossing the bridge, that's a US Tank! There's another... and another... and...."
PIO: "No, no, I assure you that we captured a few US tanks. Those are the ones..."
CNN Reporter: "Isn't that Chuck Norris on the turret?"
PIO: "I have to go boys... I'm late for... dinner..."
___________________________________________________
In our variant of OODA, PDCA, we base our operational goals on known or unknown factors. Much of what we do is based upon situational awareness and outcomes based on prior knowledge, skill and abilities (KSAs).
We know how a structure fire goes through evolutions and cycles; Unless we disrupt the cycle (chemical chain reaction), we know the outcome is total destruction. The unknown factor is the fuel loading; how much combustible product (Furniture, wood, paper, etc...) is in the container (the house). Other factors that we cannot know are things like combustible fluids or solids used for various household uses; alcohol based cleaners, aerosol cans, fuel storage for heating, powdered grains or meal, cooking oils & grease, etc... Think about what is typically in your house, and consider whether it can flash, explode or gas off and create toxic fumes.
So we PLAN: Establish the operational goals in accordance with an expected outcome. This plan is usually based on our KSAs, or what we have experienced before.
Then we DO: The Plan is initiated; we put into motion a series of tactical level functions. We also observe and collect data for ongoing analysis.
Then we CHECK: Are the tactics within the scope of the operational plan having the desired effect. Are we reaching the operational goals of the plan and is the data collected reflective of the actual effect.
Then we ACT: Do we need to modify our tactics or stay the course? This is where we make corrective adjustments to the tactics as we continue to move through the cycle.
The cycle repeats until operational goals are accomplished or circumstances go beyond the scope of the original plan.
Anyway, you are quite correct, sometimes it is a lot more fun to play with the PDCA Cycle and tactical theory behind various events.
We use table-top situational trainings and simulators to train our officers. This is where they will learn the tactical level of the operation. Nothing like making these guys sweat... just makes my day.
This is not the same as being one of the guys carrying out the actual tactics. PDCA is where you better know how the individual tactics on various levels interface or inter-connect as they are applied. One wrong move and you can lose some people.
I'm sure we all have seen Ladder 49 and Backdraft. Ok, those are Hollywood action films. In a real backdraft, we must be able to read the signs from observation, not from exploration. The level of tactical agressiveness is much different as the situation changes, and a Backdraft is at the top of the food chain. We do not risk lives if there are no lives to save. Meaning: we won't insert rescue teams into a structure if it is known there is no one inside to rescue, or conditions exist that are not condusive for survival, (ours or yours).
If the situation presented is a densely smoke-filled container with ambient temperatures around 1200 degrees F, you're already dead if you are inside. Our operational plan is based on what we know about this event. Tactics will be: ventilate the container vertically, begin suppression as close to the base of the fire without disrupting the thermal layering. We don't want it to go boom. The immediate goal is to reverse the temperature rise by allowing the hot gases to escape through our vent, thus allowing a cool-down.
Ok... enough about that...
It's those little scripting syntax errors that will drive you crazy....
MissionFinished() works for me... sounds right... it clearly describes what I want it to do.... damn computer.
Sorry for bummin your topic... I'll shut up and sit over here for a while...