Blitzkrieg 1 Fun and Play

[Grot]

Blitzkrieg 1 Fun and Play vanilla campaigns with all kind of skins , extra maps and so on.Begging to modify to your pleasure.
Drop in run / data folder and see what happens.

[bb]

Which are the campaigns?

[Grot]

vanilla  Allies Russian German + extra maps

[bb]

Are the original campaigns? Or a compilation of all old vanilla custom campaigns?
A list would be cool.

[Grot]

Try And Play .. its Blitzkrieg after all.

[Grot]

[Quintaxel]

Nov 16, 2013 20:03:50 GMT 1 Grot said:

Try And Play .. its Blitzkrieg after all.

I downloaded the files an dropped the 4 pak files in the run /data folder but BK gives an error when I try to run the game.exe
Also the mapeditor freezes.
I'm running a fresh install of BK antology. It runs fine with just the flora pak installed.
Any idea what is going wrong here ?

[Grot]

SJ Screenshot is with my skin collection and mod works fine with my vanilla blitzkrieg. Why not recommended?

[Grot]

Also I could upload my skin collection but its about 1.2 Gigs. That why I assumed you guys will have fun with your own skins and so . Well I haven't play vanilla for sometime and its a joy to come back again to that experience.

[Quintaxel]

I still cannot load the mod into BK vanilla but I looked at the contents of the pak files and they contain some interesting material. The problem I see is that it is not always clear if this is copyrighted material and if not who is the author? Could material in these paks be 'recycled' and used in other mods ? Giving credit to the authors is not a problem, finding out who they are sometimes is.  

[Major Pain]

Squire, let me see if I can add to this.

One of the basic lessons we as the old timers learned a long time ago was to trust each others words and opinions.

If Squire says it is unstable, he is serious.    Part in part is the fact that he worked on it, and as he stated, uses objects from TC.   TC in itself sends a RED FLAG within the community as to Copyright issues.  If you do not own a TC version, you may not possess any TC works.  Within the TC Collection there were BK vanilla objects, and some remodels.   Those can be used without issue if you own any BK version.   So what Squire is trying to say in a very respectful way is...  there is an issue with that mod.    

When the author tells me something, I usually believe them.   There is enough stuff out there that will allow you to bypass that work.

I apologize if I seem disrespectful or seem to be attacking you... I am not at all attempting to do so.   Call it educating you as to the Code we all try to follow and honor.

I can use my own past works as another example of sub-standard or ill-advised work.   I still have members who inquire about my first Sherman Project from 2005-6.   While I attempted to provide every known Sherman variant used, there were only re-skins, or re-builds of BK vanilla models.   I do not recommend anyone use those.   They only filled in until new models came along which were actual historical replicas.   So my earlier work was not very good and i do not recommend it.  So my opinion of my own work is basically the same as Squire has stated about his early work.   

You must understand that during the early years, we experimented and tried to find solutions to overcome certain issues.   We struggled and sometimes utterly failed.   As the years gave way to a better knowledge of BK, we have moved the bar progressively forward and most of the old issues are now only memories.

Please accept my humble apology for speaking on this.  But of out Respect for my old Friend Squire James, I felt compelled to jump in and explain a bit of history.

[Quintaxel]

'It's really really not very good.' That's clear  .
Please forgive my ignorance but I never heard of the a mod called 'Crimson Fields, Crimson Skies'. That's shame on me, I know.
Judging from this article a lot of work went into this mod. I checked some videos on Youtube. Airplane sounds are really really, really very good ! Where could I find some in-game screenshots ?

[Quintaxel]

It's a real pity that there's no public release but understandable in case of  possible copyright issues.  (I don't grasp the copyright policies on BK material. The GZM mod contains material from several commercial releases and yet it is made available to the public ?)
Could not yet find the screenshots but I'll keep on searching.  In the meanwhile I'll seek consolation in the Youtube videos about CSCF. 

[Major Pain]

Copyright policies are fundamentally intended to prevent piracy of intellectual property.  The word Copyright, means the "Copy" or "Item" is someones property - "Right", meaning they own the RIGHTS, and the hold exclusive ownership on how it is distributed or sold.

Example:  

If I build an object for a project, and I place a copyright on that object, then I am the only one that may distribute that object.

The matter becomes quite complicated if I sell the object for commercial purposes, meaning I sell the object or a concept for my livelihood or financial gain.  If someone else has purchased my object, and they distribute the object without my permission, then they are effectively denying me the opportunity to sell my object to another person.  It does not matter if the other person sells or gives my object away, the fact is they have injured me financially because I lost a potential sale of my object.

In the BK world, there were several Companies that held a license for the BK Game, meaning they purchased the right to exclusively offer for sale BK objects, including their own objects.  One of these Licensees was Total Challenge.   Since they own a financial position, any distribution of their copyrighted material is in violation of the International Copyright Laws.  I know several years ago they were quite active in pursuing people who pirated their material.   Some of the items were objects that had been reskinned and shared with other players.   If the sharing was only a skin, and not an original 3-D model, then there was no problem.  The problem starts when the 3-D model was also shared, which was the Copyrighted object, or Intellectual Material.

In my own Copyrighted Material, I protect my interest to decide how it can be used or shared.   I reserve the right to say how it can be used.  I do not sell the objects.  They are for the enjoyment of the community.  However, a young man in Hong Kong decided he could take my work and sell it for profit recently.   While he did not sell much, he did make money off my work.   He violated my copyrights and my right to decide how it was used.  Recently his website was taken down and all moneys he collected have been paid back to the buyers.  In addition, he must pay me damages based on 1000% of the amount of what he sold my work for.  That is deal he accepted in order to stay out of Prison and to prevent his record from showing a conviction for International Piracy.  He was 19 years old at the time of the crime, and 20 now.  The lesson in all of this is he could have screwed his life up forever over objects he did not make, but stole and sold for only $400 US.

We must be very careful when we use Copyrighted Material.   In our excitement about the game or an object, we sometimes only wish to share our talent and work, and do not intend to violate a copyright.  This was especially true in the early days of BK and the various releases.  But there have been some very aggressive actions against individuals for merely sharing a model or map that in essence violated someone else's Copyright.   

Rule of thumb, if you do not have a specific version of BK which contained object "A", then you are not legally allowed to own Object "A".  If you obtain Object "A" from another source, you and the person who passed Object "A" to you are both in violation of the Owner's Copyright.  Technically, the owner has been damaged and can legally come after both parties for violating his rights.  

Copyright Laws are enforceable in most Countries and judged by International Courts in most cases.   To date there are only about 18 Recognized Countries that do not enforce Copyright Laws, but this does not mean you cannot be extradited or basically kid-napped for prosecution.  Much depends on the level of the piracy or Copyright violation or the amount of money or damaged involved.  

In my own situation, I did pursue the young man because he was trying to sell my property to others for money, when I have never charged anyone for my work.   To me, he was taking advantage of others to put money in his pocket for objects I built and offered for free.   Right is right.  He has yet to pay me the money for damages, which will barely cover the cost of the attorney I used to bring the charges and law suit.   I could have let it pass, but I think it is wrong for someone else to profit off my work when it was never intended for sale in the first place.  Basically, it pisses me off.   My offer to him was generous.   Pay the attorney that I used to prevent you from making money off my work, and you will not go to prison for ten years which will screw your life up.... forever...


It just is not worth it to take the risk.

I hope this explains Copyrights...

[Major Pain]

I felt I should follow up my post with this:

My above message should not prevent anyone from enjoying BK and the various objects that have been offered over the years.   There is a huge amount of stuff out there and no reason for anyone to take a chance on Copyright issues.

It has never been my intention to prevent anyone from having a good time.  Matter of fact, most of us are here to help you have a great game experience.

When in doubt, just ask one of us.

The Major