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Post by cksteel on May 11, 2014 22:42:38 GMT 1
I talked to Game Ranger Developer Evill in the thread Blitzkrieg he said quote ..>Yes, I'm not sure when yet, but it will be added.Good news for bk community head ups to evill.
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Post by Major Pain on May 12, 2014 9:45:16 GMT 1
I think you mean... Scott Kevill.
In the meantime... why don't you help us work out the bugs at Openspy?
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Post by cksteel on May 12, 2014 13:53:34 GMT 1
Yes that is his name Scott Kevill in Game-Range his account name in Evill. I did fine a patch for Open-spy but have to study in more in depth. Its says it is for Windows 2000 -Windows 8 and up for 32bit systems and 64bit systems.Open-spy seems to have lags Issues, players I have talked to have experienced the same game lag and chat lag issues.
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Post by Jagged Steel on May 12, 2014 15:13:54 GMT 1
Yes that is his name Scott Kevill in Game-Range his account name in Evill. I did fine a patch for Open-spy but have to study in more in depth. Its says it is for Windows 2000 -Windows 8 and up for 32bit systems and 64bit systems.Open-spy seems to have lags Issues, players I have talked to have experienced the same game lag and chat lag issues. Which players did you talk to? Your comments about game lag point to a fundamental mis-understanding of how the BK Multiplayer system using GS and now OS works. The fact is that Gamespy and therefore Openspy do not actually host the game, they are only a matchmaking and chat service. Once the players have entered the room, the matchmaking service sets up a VPN between the players and sets them loose. The game is run in a pier-to-pier type of arrangement between the PCs of the players and the connection speed between them has nothing to do with how or where the game is set up. The other thing I see you endlessly repeating in the Gamespy chat is that there are some issues with Openspy. In light of the fact that Gamespy is riddled with bugs, has chat lag issues, and crashes at least once a day, why would you expect a copy of this system to be absolutely perfect? That makes no sense, but then anyone who has known you for any length of time knows that not making any sense whatsoever is your trademark. As far as Game Ranger goes, you and about 5 million other gamers who are going to lose their favorite games when Gamespy goes down have contacted Game Ranger, Steam, and Xfire. I guess I can state that I talked to God last night about making the Sun come up and then take credit for it if it does , too, but the reality is that my conversation with God did not have anything to do with what is in the works. There are some BK Multiplayers who were way ahead of the curve on contacting these hosting sytems and started making these contacts a year or more ago. Thus far a nothing even remotely like a "yes" answer has been heard from any of them. Will one of them pick up BK? Maybe. Maybe not. I am all for BK being on any or all of these systems , BUT, the SS BK Multiplayer is sinking right now and the big game systems have not done anything thus far. Zero. Nothing. The reality is that BK on Gamespy might be gone any minute of any day now, Gamespy has already started shutting down servers to games, starting with older less popular ones first, and BK is pretty far down on that list, so it is quite likely that it will be turned off before the May 31 official date of complete shutdown of all Gamespy servers. If some sort of effort to maintain the community is not found then the community will be set adrift when the ship sinks and will most likely never gather together again. This is why Openspy is important. If it is only a short term solution until one of the big systems pick up BK , great. It costs nothing to implement and does not preclude using other options if and when they come along. What you have been pushing for in "your own way" is to do nothing (along with trying to screw up other peoples efforts who are trying to do something) rather than working on the solution which at the moment is the best hope of maintaining the option to play BK online. I know for sure that doing nothing and sitting around hoping that "somebody else" fixes BK Multiplayer is certain to leave the BK Multiplayer community shattered. You have been offered a seat in the lifeboat, if you prefer to just drift at sea hoping to be picked up by a passing ship instead of getting in the best lifeboat on this sinking ship you are quite free to do so. Myself and all of those working so hard at getting the Openspy lifeboat into the water ask that you please stop trying to capsize the best lifeboat on our grand old ship. |
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Post by iLeeT_PeeP on May 12, 2014 15:58:36 GMT 1
Very good news ck...  I guess rather than die BK is gonna generate 3 new lives.  Good games all! -iLeeT_PeeP |
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Post by Jagged Steel on May 12, 2014 16:15:35 GMT 1
Good job encouraging CK ,Peep. This even though I know that you are aware that CK has spent the past couple of weeks intentionally sending BK Multplayers to a kids' Nintendo chat room where they are not welcome, publicly stating that he intended to do as much damage to their site as he could (up to and including actual death threats, which is a felony here in Arizona. No joke.), simply because these kids told him that their chat was for Nintendo, and not BK, a game they had never heard of. Now he has taken up the cause of trying to screw up any real effort to keep BK Multiplayer functionality, simply out of spite.
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Post by iLeeT_PeeP on May 12, 2014 16:42:46 GMT 1
Good job encouraging CK ,Peep. This even though I know that you are aware that CK has spent the past couple of weeks intentionally sending BK Multplayers to a kids' Nintendo chat room where they are not welcome, publicly stating that he intended to do as much damage to their site as he could (up to and including actual death threats, which is a felony here in Arizona. No joke.), simply because these kids told him that their chat was for Nintendo, and not BK, a game they had never heard of. Now he has taken up the cause of trying to screw up any real effort to keep BK Multiplayer functionality, simply out of spite. GameRanger was my #1 choice Jagg... Why shouldnt I support this? Good games to all! -iLeeT_PeeP |
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Post by Major Pain on May 12, 2014 17:05:13 GMT 1
For those that are interested.
Game Ranger is only free up to the first 50 players. So someone will have to bear the cost if the community wishes to move there. If you do not believe me, look it up.
For those of you that just want to go along with something other than OpenSpy, just to be contrary... why?
I have yet to hear any reason why OpenSpy is not a viable move. At the moment, there are no other options that are up and running.
I'm not a Multiplayer so I don't have a dog in the hunt. Others have already given a lot of time to the OpenSpy project for the good of the community. While it may also be in their own best interest, why is that a problem?
By causing distraction with other site options when OpenSpy has already offered everything they have seems illogical to me. So it seems the community will splinter due to these efforts, if Game Ranger does add BK. There is nothing in the works, and nothing definitive, only words.
OpenSpy at least is up and running... now. That is action, and I'll put my faith in action every time. So I urge everyone to really think hard about this. You have about two weeks before GameSpy is gone. How do you plan to spend those two weeks and the days after?
I'm going to say one more thing on the subject. There is more at risk than just Multiplayer. The constant distractions and innuendos are doing internal damage to the community. Those that continue to create a hostile environment are only speeding the destruction of this community. Is that what you wish to be remembered as? I don't understand why a few people cannot fit into the group for the common good of the community. It's like they are saying "Follow me, I'm your hero, throw the future away".
I hope that no one is thinking they are going to take credit for rescuing the entire Blitzkrieg Multiplayer Community. I hope no one is that egotistical around here. It seems to me it has already been a combined effort and no one is trying to one up anyone else.
So until there is a formal announcement on Game Ranger, I'm considering locking this topic if it gets out of hand.
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Post by iLeeT_PeeP on May 12, 2014 17:14:48 GMT 1
What!?!? LOL....  Jagg, MP? Did I say something to offend either of you in this topic? Also I dont see what ck-steel said in this topic that is offensive to either of you as well... Very strange responses to my... what seem like positive, neutral and non-offensive posts... Very strange indeed... hmm.  I guess we will drop this conversation and I hope this IS NOT as it seems and you all are not trying to "limit" our freedoms?  I read the topic and ck-steel nor myself posted anything wrong... Silly to discuss this any further but I hope my point is understood. Good games. -iLeeT_PeeP |
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Post by Jagged Steel on May 12, 2014 17:23:44 GMT 1
Good job encouraging CK ,Peep. This even though I know that you are aware that CK has spent the past couple of weeks intentionally sending BK Multplayers to a kids' Nintendo chat room where they are not welcome, publicly stating that he intended to do as much damage to their site as he could (up to and including actual death threats, which is a felony here in Arizona. No joke.), simply because these kids told him that their chat was for Nintendo, and not BK, a game they had never heard of. Now he has taken up the cause of trying to screw up any real effort to keep BK Multiplayer functionality, simply out of spite. Game Ranger was my #1 choice Jagg... Why shouldnt I support this? Good games to all! -iLeeT_PeeP I never said you should not support efforts to get Blitzkrieg Multiplayer on Game Ranger. I was simply pointing out that CK has nothing to do with whether or not BK gets up on Game Ranger. Simple fact. I was also pointing out that CK is in fact clinically insane, and he commonly spends his time not only being as big a nuisance as he possibly can, he also has been engaging in malicious, downright criminal, and completely insane activity while he plays his game. His game, by the way is not BK. His game is getting his jollies by being a nuisance to BK players, quitting or hard crashing games that he is in, harrassing players while they are trying to play, and generally trying to be as annoying as he possibly can. This is not new activity for him either, he has been doing this for years now. I guess you do not see what he is actually trying to do here. He is NOT trying to preserve BK Multiplayer, he is simply trying to F up the efforts to get Blitzkrieg going on Openspy. Primarily because he is boiling with hatred towards me, and I have been the most public face associated with the Openspy Blitzkrieg Multiplayer project. Since you obviously can not see this I will attempt to make it clear for you: The SS Gamespy BK Multiplayer is sinking. It is going to sink by the 31st at the latest. However, it is very likely it will go down before then (any day), so the time to save as much of the BK Multiplayer community as possible is very short. Game Ranger may or may not pick up Blitzkrieg. Even if they do, it is unlikely it will happen before the ship sinks. The best lifeboats available right now are this website, and the Openspy option for replacing Gamespy. What CK is doing is yelling at the top of his lungs to everyone on the ship to not bother getting on one of these lifeboats, because a big ship (Game Ranger) is going to show up at the very last second and save everyone. "Don't get into that lifeboat, it is not as good as the ship that is coming for us, and it takes a lot of work to row and bail to keep it afloat!". If this big fancy ship does not show up before the BK Gamespy ship sinks, most of those who have not gotten into a lifeboat will be set adrift without knowing how to contact any of the players they have been BKing with for so many years. After a day or two of drifting when the ship sinks they will simply chalk BK up as a fond memory and get on the ship of the next game to go by and never look back. If by some miracle a big ship comes by (Game Ranger, Steam) those who are on the lifeboat can get on it, regardless of whether the BK Gamespy ship has gone down yet or not. If the big fancy ship to save BK Multiplayer show up a day or week or month after the BK Gamespy ship goes down, those who have not gotten into a lifeboat are not likely to be found. If you want to throw support behind a known lunatic who has openly diverted as many BKrs as he could on his insane quest to harrass a kids Nintendo site and has also publicly stated that he hates this site and intends to do as much harm as he can to it and any members here that he possible can (myself being at the top of his list, but other specific members have been harrassed by him), I can not stop you. But I also do not have to like it, and you can rest assured that I will state my piece about what I see. If you insist on carrying on with this, I will post some screens showing you that each and every statement I have made about this lunatic who is playing games at the expense of the BK community is in fact 100% true, but I don't see the need to show that type of thing here unless I absolutely have to. |
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Post by iLeeT_PeeP on May 12, 2014 17:29:03 GMT 1
I am not ck-steel Jagg...  AND... I do not think there is anything wrong with me having an opinion that lines up with his... How could that become offensive? This topic isnt becoming a bad idea for what it states or implies... It seems to be becoming a bad idea for other reasons. I will stop posting here. BTW man just so you know... ck-steel is one of the first guys I talked to about the GS server going down... Not because he is my long trusted friend or BKer in any way... But rather simply because he was on actual Gamespy itself at the time and we stroke up a conversation about it. We at the time discussed different options and he mentioned writing to GameRanger to hopefully get some sort of response from them cause it seemed like the best option at the time. This before OPENSPY even existed as an alternative option on the table we knew about! About 2 weeks ago I asked him if we had a response from GameRanger yet and he still said "nope nothing yet" at the time... OPENSPY still DID NOT EXIST AS AN OPTION ON THE TABLE. All that has happend is he finally got a response from them and is sharing it with us... He is not trying to directly sabotage you Jagg... You really need to rethink this man! Yer not the "victim" I also doubt someone who was trying to sabotage BK MP would even take the time to write GameRanger LONG BEFORE your OPENSPY option even existed... Im not going to point fingers man but something VERY SILLY is going on here and we could do alot better without... ck-steel was the first guy to try to take action! First with Hamachi and then this 2nd "chat" option... which even though is not the best option it is not a misunderstood gesture by me... You guys can be something else... I DO NOT blame any alternative option to Gamespy as the fault or qwerk in breaking a community. Its the Bkers themselves that make things this way! -iLeeT_PeeP |
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Post by Jagged Steel on May 12, 2014 17:50:37 GMT 1
I am not ck-steel Jagg... AND... I do not think there is anything wrong with me having an opinion that lines up with his... How could that become offensive? This topic isnt becoming a bad idea for what it states or implies... It seems to be becoming a bad idea for other reasons. I will stop posting here. BTW man just so you know... ck-steel is one of the first guys I talked to about the GS server going down... Not because he is my long trusted friend or BKer in any way... But rather simply because he was on actual Gamespy itself at the time and we stroke up a conversation about it. We at the time discussed different options and he mentioned writing to GameRanger to hopefully get some sort of response from them cause it seemed like the best option at the time. This before OPENSPY even existed as an alternative option on here that we knew about. About 2 weeks ago I asked him if we had a response from GameRanger yet and he still said "nope nothing yet" at the time... OPENSPY still DID NOT EXIST AS AN OPTION ON THE TABLE. All that has happend is he finally got a response from them and is sharing it with us... He is not trying to directly sabotage you Jagg... You really need to rethink this man! Yer not the "victim" I also doubt someone who was trying to sabotage BK MP would even take the time to write GameRanger LONG BEFORE your OPENSPY option even existed... Im not going to point fingers man but something VERY SILLY is going on here and we could do alot better without... -iLeeT_PeeP What I can say for sure is that you have mastered the art of not reading what people type, while imagining things that have not been typed. The part about you saying that CK is not specifically attacking the Openspy effort, Blitzsrbija, and myself is completely ludicrous. You must have not been in the Gamespy chat this weekend, because he was publicly saying all of those things continuously all weekend long. Over and Over and Over. Still is, as a matter of fact, the last time I checked he was on there still going off. |
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Post by iLeeT_PeeP on May 12, 2014 17:55:45 GMT 1
Our respect is in order Jagg... as it always has been.
But my respect for ck-steel is in order as well...
Good games.
-iLeeT_PeeP
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Post by Major Pain on May 12, 2014 18:01:27 GMT 1
For the record. I have not limited or tried to suppress anyone's opinion in their thinking or their words, except when it crosses the line or is outside of the rules. I was merely pointing out the discussion has moved in the direction of jabs thrown, and that is not going to continue, by anyone.
I have not mentioned anyone by name. But I urge all of you to step back on the issue now and discuss this calmly.
The timeline is not the issue here as far as when one was mentioned first.
Game Ranger has not yet moved. Gamespy is operating. Those are the facts.
One has a cost once a 50 players limit is reached. The other does not, although it is run by donations.
From what I'm hearing, OpenSpy is as good as GameSpy now. Can it get better? Of course, perhaps with our help.
I'll leave each to make their own mind up.
This is not the time to clash over ideas Gentlemen. It is a time to come together. Think about it.
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Post by Jagged Steel on May 12, 2014 18:07:49 GMT 1
Our respect is in order Jagg... as it always has been. But my respect for ck-steel is in order as well... Good games. -iLeeT_PeeP  You respect this guy huh? Publicly trying to attack a childs Nintendo site, while telling BKrs that is a great place to meet. This was the very tamest screen of his lunacy that I could find, the others are WAY crazy and vulgar, and also downright criminal. Like I said, a death threat on the internet is now officially a FELONY here in Arizona, and some other places, and he goes off with those all the time. I have known CK for years, and he has been like this from the very first time I played and chatted with him. If anything he is getting a bit more insane. But if this is the type of guy that you respect, that is your prerogative, but I for one do not see anything worthy of respect. |
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