Map orientation question

[Major Johnson]

When the mission description references north, south, east or west, am I to assume the top of the map as I'm looking at it is north??  There isn't a compass or markings that I can see.  I'm playing a mission in Stalingrad and there are two objective marks on the map, the description of the first objective is to capture the airfield, then go south and capture some other area because it's high ground and once I capture it I'll get air strike capability.  Only the other objective mark on the map is to my left which I assume is west, and by looking at the map, that's where the high ground is.  I played the mission as directed and once I captured the southern section, I didn't get any air strikes and wound up failing miserably by the time I finally made an attempt on the area where the other objective mark was.  5 hours!!!  Fortunately I saved different points.  I think I'm gonna try going after the 2nd objective mark before heading south.

[Scyooff]

Orientation of the map is the same in Stalingrad than in other BK series games look at the minimap in the screen below :



if the mission that you speak is the one i think, normally after taking the airfield the soviets try to retake the airfield if you don't repel them you loose.

[Major Johnson]

Thanks, but the mini-map in Stalingrad doesn't have the same frame as shown in that picture.

[Major Johnson]

Maybe someone here might be familiar with the mission? It's about taking Mamaev Hill. The first objective is to take airport at what appears to be the north and slightly east on the map. There is an objective symbol on the map in the pre-mission briefing. The other objective symbol is on the left side, which I interpret as west, and that is Mamaev Hill. There is a small settlement at the bottom of the map, which I assume is south. The briefing says that after I take the airport to head south and capture that settlement. It also tells me to capture a warehouse that is just to the east of Mamaev Hill. Well that warehouse is in the airport. The briefing is a little confusing as it makes it sound like the warehouse is near the southern town, but there isn't any other warehouses other than in the airport, which does match the description of being slightly east of Mamaev hill.

[Scyooff]

Jan 26, 2015 3:17:21 GMT 1 Major Johnson said:

Thanks, but the mini-map in Stalingrad doesn't have the same frame as shown in that picture.

Of course the frame is not the same, in the Stalingrad one, nothing indicates north or south but it's the same orientation in all BK titles (Stalingrad, WW1, Talvisota, etc...) .

Jan 26, 2015 4:17:29 GMT 1 Major Johnson said:

Maybe someone here might be familiar with the mission? It's about taking Mamaev Hill. The first objective is to take airport at what appears to be the north and slightly east on the map. There is an objective symbol on the map in the pre-mission briefing. The other objective symbol is on the left side, which I interpret as west, and that is Mamaev Hill. There is a small settlement at the bottom of the map, which I assume is south. The briefing says that after I take the airport to head south and capture that settlement. It also tells me to capture a warehouse that is just to the east of Mamaev Hill. Well that warehouse is in the airport. The briefing is a little confusing as it makes it sound like the warehouse is near the southern town, but there isn't any other warehouses other than in the airport, which does match the description of being slightly east of Mamaev hill.

I finished this mission without losing any tanks, vehicles, mortars, guns or planes i had just loose infantry units, and like i was telling you above a soviet counter attacks occured after taking the airfield, you must to have this objective completed in your objective menu, if not it's because there are some soviets hiding somewhere in or around the airfield, i remember entered in all buildings or bunkers with my infantry and found one sovietr soldier who was in the concrete bunker in the right of the airfield.
After having the airfield objective completed, you'll receive the order to hold the airfield you have an infantry company arriving in reinforcement and the soviets attacking the airfield, after defeat them (i don't remember exactly if there are another missions before taking the field depot in the south), the field depot appeared in the village in the south.

In the worst case i believe that i still have my savegames in a hard disc.

[Major Johnson]

Thank you Scyooff!
I did complete the taking the airfield and my reinforcements arrived. I was smart enough to make a save at that point. I typically like to save after each objective, and sometimes even during. It was that settlement in the south where I think I missed an enemy soldier or two. I'm going to reload my save after the reinforcements arrived after taking the airport and give it another shot. But if you completed that mission without losing one single tank, you're damn good!!

It was comical though when I was trying to take the last objective without air strikes. I was down to four tanks and I was using two of them in vintage Rat Patrol fashion of staying far enough away from the anti-tank guns and just running up and down the perimeter of the last objective, drawing the mortar fire, which seemed to have an endless supply of ammo, while I attacked in another area, but my force wasn't big enough to overcome the defenses. Then the AL launched an air strike that got lucky and knocked out both of my diversionary tanks! That pretty much was the death nail for me in that mission.

But as for the field depot in the south, can you remember if it appeared after you took the town??

And you know, the weird thing about this map, if we're to assume the the orientation of top and bottom is north and south, is that the Germans are attacking from east to west!!  You would think it would be the other way around.  And supposedly the missions are historically accurate!

[Scyooff]

I'm sorry, my graphic card let me fall yesterday evening and i'm actually at my workplace so i will answer to your question about the field depot in the south of the map as soon as i can, not before one week so if someone else can help Major Johnson before me don't hesitate ! 

[Major Johnson]

Much appreciated Scyooff, but don't rush on my account. I've been busy the past few days with "the snow storm that never was!" Here on the east coast of the US. I haven't had time to even launch the game! But I enjoy getting helpful insight from others!

[Major Johnson]

Well I replayed that mission, retaking the southern settlement and still no air strike capability, so I decided to attack the 2nd mission objective from a different direction, whittling away at one end of the trenches to get a foot hold and entry into the rear area so I could take out those damn mortars that had an endless supply of ammo! I pelted the anti-tank guns with my own mortars before sending in my tanks. Once I got into the rear area and silenced the mortars the rest was cake! The moment I moved one of my tanks onto the objective symbol area shown on the mini map, it gave me the mission completed option. Thank God!!! And to my surprise that was the last mission in the German Campaign. Now I'm playing the Russian campaign! Yup, it's gonna be another lost weekend!!