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Post by GottMitUns on Feb 12, 2012 18:07:43 GMT 1
Now, that's a lot easier...  The shell comes from the 60mm mortar "Karl". The exact date and place seem unclear, but the pic definetly got taken in Warzaw during the uprising in 1944. Some sources claim, it's in the basement of "Adria"- building at Moniuszki 10 street on August 18. According to another source the pic got photographed in basement of Prudential building at Napoleon Square on August 30. And I would actually love, if you could drop some more words about those guys in the pic before, as I as well havn't heard anything of this unit before...  And ... I like learning.  Greetz from Hamburg. |
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Post by tedi88 on Feb 12, 2012 19:06:29 GMT 1
60mm? You sure about that?
You can proceed.
Regarding Battalion. Was formed in late August of 1943, most members came from "Gray Ranks" (Polish: Szare Szeregi, scouting group). They liberated Gesiowka (which was a concentration camp).
During the attack on the Gesiowka they were supported by two captured Pz V Panthers. One Panther was under command of Wacław Micuta. I think that Panther was named Magda. They abandoned those tanks on 11th of August.
The battalion incorporated most of 383 prisoners from camp into their ranks, of these I think only three survived the fighting.
They were the part of Radoslaw group. What was left of the battalion managed to abandon Warsaw sometime around 25th of September.
After the war all members of the battalion were incarcerated in Soviet prisons (according to my records thats from 1944-1956)
Hope this helps.
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Post by GottMitUns on Feb 12, 2012 19:20:00 GMT 1
60mm? You sure about that? ;D ;D Maybe there's missing an additional 0. But I won't tell you where exactly... ;D Please gimme some time for a question, as I'm not at home atm... Greetz from Hamburg. |
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Post by Jagged Steel on Feb 12, 2012 22:02:06 GMT 1
The fellow handling that unexploded shell must have a hard time putting his pants on with balls that big.  |
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Post by GottMitUns on Feb 12, 2012 23:40:49 GMT 1
Steel ones I tell you, steel ones... ;D Ok, what do we have here:  Please tell me what are the two vehicles in the foreground of the picture? When got the pic taken? Please name the operation that those vehicles took part in. And as extra, extra Bonus for those, that shouldn't have a hard time answering the rest (yes, Tedi, MP, you know who I'm talking to... ): One of the two vehicles had gotten a nickname by it's crew. Wich of the two was it and what was this name?? Greetz from Hamburg. |
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Post by Major Pain on Feb 13, 2012 1:21:07 GMT 1
Yeah sure...... pick on the old guy...
Ok, just for that I'm going to hold my breath...
For about ten seconds...
You really had to scrap the bottom of the archives to find that picture... ;D
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Post by GottMitUns on Feb 13, 2012 1:29:18 GMT 1
No picking on anyone was intended...  And 10 seconds already are waaaaaay of. ;D Greetz from you know. |
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Post by tedi88 on Feb 13, 2012 13:50:12 GMT 1
Sd.Kfz. 7/1 and Panzerjaeger Nashorn or Hornisse. April-May '44. Name of the operation: Unternehmen "Frühlingsfest". Somewhere in are of Vitebsk, Polotsk and Lepel. Nickname of Nashorn is "Berlin". Btw shame it wasn't Hamburg. |
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Post by GottMitUns on Feb 13, 2012 14:18:01 GMT 1
Nickname of Nashorn is "Berlin". Btw shame it wasn't Hamburg. And again, you didn't leave anything unanswered. Your turn. Greetz. |
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Post by tedi88 on Feb 13, 2012 14:31:43 GMT 1
 What unit, where? GottMitUns: Regarding the balls either that or ones big like Kraljevic Marko had. ;D |
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Post by Jagged Steel on Feb 13, 2012 19:27:20 GMT 1
Just to clarify: The "Big Balls" comment was about how brave the guy checking the unexploded Karl mortar shell was.
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Post by tedi88 on Feb 13, 2012 19:52:52 GMT 1
I know what you meant by balls.
Edit: To clarify Kraljevic Marko really had big balls.
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Post by LouisXIV on Feb 15, 2012 14:46:25 GMT 1
Sd.Kfz. 7/1 and Panzerjaeger Nashorn or Hornisse. April-May '44. Name of the operation: Unternehmen "Frühlingsfest". Somewhere in are of Vitebsk, Polotsk and Lepel.
Nickname of Nashorn is "Berlin". Btw shame it wasn't Hamburg. |
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Post by GottMitUns on Feb 15, 2012 15:32:00 GMT 1
I don't agree. The vehicle in the background is a Grille 10 AA SP platform, as best I can tell. Could the archive listing be mistaken? No, sorry Louis, definetly a Nashorn that is. I stumbled upon this flic in a discussion- thread about German anti- partisan operations on www.forum-der-wehrmacht.de. The guys there named it being a Nashorn tank- destroyer. Exactly the same says the Bundesarchiv, where this photo is originated. And those guys really know about their stuffs. Greetz from Hamburg. Edit the edit: www.ww2incolor.com/german-artillery/gr10_5.htmlTo me, that looks a lot different. Greetz. |
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Post by Ocelo on Feb 16, 2012 4:40:18 GMT 1
Yeah, its a Nashorn; I recently built one of those in 1/35; the giveaway for me is that vertical sleet rectangle and the steel arch above it above the main gun. The arch limits the max elevation of the gun. I thought so too MP, I think the size of the SdKfz7 makes the tracks and the gun seem small. |
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