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Post by tedi88 on Mar 31, 2012 6:57:30 GMT 1
Well the third one should be USS Ranger (CV-4).
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Post by LouisXIV on Apr 1, 2012 20:35:01 GMT 1
I read something about the Enterprise saying it was the only one of the original six to survive the war, but yesterday I was aghast to read something about the Saratoga that said she also survived. My bad.
Sorry if you were waiting, I've been away for the weekend.
Let's keep things afloat.
A certain battleship was laid down well before WWII started, fired her main armament in anger during the war, and is the last battleship ever to have been completed and put into official service. Can you name her?
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Post by LouisXIV on Apr 2, 2012 2:06:45 GMT 1
The Jean Bart, laid down in 1936, fired her main armament in self-defence in 1940 at Mers-el-Kabir, finally completed after the war and commissioned in 1950.
You're right, SJ, sort of tricky. Of course, you could have done a search on "Last battleship ever commissioned." Good guess on you're part, although perhaps a better question for the Vanguard might be Longest time between main armament completed and being commissioned, some 20+ years (Usually the main armament is one of the last things completed on a battleship.)
Proceed, Ares, and skip the obscure photographs.
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Post by tedi88 on Apr 4, 2012 5:48:12 GMT 1
Railroad guns. They were designed in '38. Caliber was 356mm TP-1 and 500mm TG-1.TG-1 was ordered into production in '42 ( some 16 pieces, but only 1 was made ). It was tested in Novokramatorsk factory, but was never used in combat. Now TP remains a mystery to me.
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Post by LouisXIV on Apr 6, 2012 22:15:27 GMT 1
tedi88, you are apparently getting no acknowledgement. If you are sure of your facts, please proceed with a question.
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Post by tedi88 on Apr 6, 2012 22:45:47 GMT 1
Well LousXIV i don't have anything at the moment, so you can take my turn.
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Post by tedi88 on Apr 7, 2012 9:22:57 GMT 1
Well i gave my turn to LouisXIV, so i will wait for him.
Edit: Nephilim no problem regarding the late response.
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Post by LouisXIV on Apr 10, 2012 1:22:22 GMT 1
The Japanese were thought by the Americans to be heartless and evil because they attacked Pearl Harbor before an official declaration of war. Due to technical difficulties and incompetence, their declaration was some 3-4 hours late.
Who was fighting full-out shooting war against their enemy for more than 5 months before war was officially declared? (Not Germany vs. the Soviet Union. I don't know if war between them was ever officially declared.)
(I hope I got all the details right; this is off the top of my head. No time for research right now.)
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Post by Folgore on Apr 10, 2012 9:13:50 GMT 1
Winter war? (USSR vs Finland)
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Post by GottMitUns on Apr 10, 2012 12:26:53 GMT 1
I believe I've found something... The hostilities between Finland and the German Reich (the so called "Lapplandwar") started around the 19th of september 1944, when Finnish and Soviet troops began driving the German forces out of the country. The official, Finnish declaration of war against Germany had to wait till March '45. On the 3rd of March 1945, the Finnish Republic declared the war on Germany backdated to September '44. Nice question... Greetz from Hamburg. Edit squire: Hitler did declare war on the U.S. on the 11th of december, what actually made the USA one of the very few states, that recieved an official declaration of war by Germany... ;D
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Post by LouisXIV on Apr 10, 2012 12:34:13 GMT 1
That's the one I'm thinking of, SJ. The U.S. Navy was unofficially at war with the Kriegsmarine right from Sept. 1939, but had orders to shoot to kill for the last half of 1941. FDR wanted to provoke the U-boats into providing him an excuse to get into the European war. He was convinced that Germany was the real enemy.
Final score: 3 U.S. destroyers torpedoed (1 sunk,) no U-boats damaged.
Incidentally, U.S. Navy PBYs stationed in Bermuda were part of the hunt for the Bismarck, and a squadron of older U.S. battleships were ordered to the North Atlantic to find and kill the Bismarck. It would have been interesting if they had got there earlier and got into a shooting match with the big B.
Got a question for us, SJ?
(Incidentally, can anyone tell me, did Germany ever officially declare war on the USSR?)
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Post by tedi88 on Apr 10, 2012 12:47:22 GMT 1
No, i think they didn't , but i know of one funny case about declaration of war by the Germans. During period of July-August '41 German Reich sent a declaration of war to three places Miokovci, Milicevci and Srezojevci. They became de jure places in Yugoslavia where war was raging, but as you know de facto it was in all of country.
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Post by LouisXIV on Apr 10, 2012 14:50:43 GMT 1
Germany did officially declare war on the Soviet Union How considerate of them!
Thanks.
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Post by tedi88 on Apr 10, 2012 21:39:21 GMT 1
Vickers-Armstrong Ltd Elswick & (Newcastle-upon) Tyne. But there are also stories about it being a codeword of Vickers with no meaning and of course that the name derived from 14th of Ferbruary St. Valentine or Sir John Valentine Carden.
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Post by tedi88 on Apr 11, 2012 15:17:35 GMT 1
I'm interested where was this photo taken.
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