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Post by fallschirmjager on Jun 25, 2012 18:44:20 GMT 1
Oki doki, thanks for explanation tedi88,
My question is gentlemen: What is the main difference between German Fallschimjager and Allied paratrooper??? I do not want experience, recruitment, morale or deployment. I simply want to know little detail which paratroopers had advantage of over Fallschirmjager.
Are you ready? No googling, should be fairly easy for WW2 enthusiasts . . . .
FJ
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Post by LouisXIV on Jun 25, 2012 19:17:20 GMT 1
Just a guess: would we be talking about the heavy weapons/extra ammo container that tended to be dropped just before the paratroopers jumped?
I seem to recall reading that the DC-3/C-47 could carry a good deal more weight than the Aunty Ju.
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Post by fallschirmjager on Jun 25, 2012 20:39:30 GMT 1
SJ you can proceed as you have answered my question correctly.
As said, Allied paratroopers could steer their chutes as they were attached by TWO strings, while Fallschirmjarer's chute has been attached by SINGLE string at his back. They heavily relied on wind speed and wind direction. Due to fact that these troops were attached by single string, it was cause to injury for many Fallschirmjagers as soon as they landed.
German Paratroopers carried only very light equipment and a side arm; all their other equipment was canister dropped (MG34,MG42 and later equipment included Panzerbusche, LG40 and shortened versions of 81mm mortar - to save weight)
Louis is right that DC-3/C-47 could carry more thus more troops and equipment.
Regards FJ
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Post by tedi88 on Jun 28, 2012 16:44:39 GMT 1
Well if you say there are several, then here it is (my opinion):
1. Cannone da 75/27 75mm modello 06 and modello 11 field guns According to the book Artillery by Chris Chant it was the oldest artillery piece of the WW2. Used by Italians. Also considered obsolete by both Germans and Italians.
2. 95mm Infantry Howitzer MK II I wouldn't call it oldest since it was young (made in '42), but it certainly was not only obsolete but useless. Not surprisingly it wasn't used much.
3. 70mm battalion gun Type 92 field howitzer Made by Japan in 1932. What can you say about it. Short range, low elevation, but was liked by Japanese. Obsolete compared to some mortars used at the time.
4. 75mm FK 16 nA and leichte FK 18 both pre ww1 pieces. They were the same as 77mm FK 16 and FK 96. Reason why they changed the calliber was Treaty of Versailles. Germany wasn't allowed to posses guns with larger caliber than 75mm. Although it can be considered obsolete and old, they still found use during campaigns of 1939. and 1940. Also they were used in Yugoslavia as well as Normandy landings where one of these managed to destroy a couple of Sherman tanks. Also i know for certain that it was used to equip some elements of Indian Legion.
Also i know of guns that were installed on fortress on island of Malta. They were as old as 16th century. However i don't know if they were used during WW2.
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Post by tedi88 on Jun 28, 2012 19:44:23 GMT 1
Cannone da 70/15. Since it didn't have the recoil system.
Well I mentioned Malta guns just because one of my cousins went there and saw them he even brought back couple of pictures. Very funny if you imagined them being used in the era of automatic weapons, early jet aircraft, tanks and etc.
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Post by tedi88 on Jun 28, 2012 21:45:10 GMT 1
149/35 definitely beats it. ;D
By the way SJ can you take my turn please. I don't have anything suitable at the moment.
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Post by Jagged Steel on Jun 28, 2012 21:48:26 GMT 1
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Post by LouisXIV on Jul 20, 2012 12:47:44 GMT 1
Let's keep this going.
If you have successfully answered a question in this quiz this year, please wait a couple of days and let others answer first. Give someone else a chance.
What was the operational name of the plan to invade Ireland, and which nation developed it?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2012 13:59:52 GMT 1
Plan W (Operation Green), during the Second World War, was a plan of joint military operations between Ireland and the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland devised between 1940 and 1942, to be executed in the event of an invasion of Ireland by Nazi Germany.
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Post by LouisXIV on Jul 20, 2012 14:07:59 GMT 1
That's good so far. Can you tell me about the "other" plan?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2012 14:21:40 GMT 1
Wikedia has got the answer. A quite interesting one by the way...
Operation Green often also referred to as Case Green (Fall Grün) or Plan Green (Plan Grün), was a full scale operations plan for a German invasion of Ireland in support of Operation Sea Lion.
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Post by LouisXIV on Jul 20, 2012 14:26:47 GMT 1
I wasn't aware of that one (although it does seem logical.) There is still one more.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2012 14:43:15 GMT 1
Churchill had many plans during World War II, including a preventive war with the Soviet Union after the fall of Nazi Germany-as did every other leader with any foresight in a dangerous world. Invading Ireland was neither seriously considered nor necessary, so this article has to be taken as speculative
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Post by LouisXIV on Jul 21, 2012 13:21:59 GMT 1
I am referring to "Operation Kathleen" by the IRA. It was clandestinely submitted to the OKW for approval, with the expectation that the Wehrmacht or at least Canaris would provide some kind of support/back-up. The OKW rejected it as completely improbable.
Since I really asked for only one you have the next turn, Kevin.
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Post by LouisXIV on Jul 23, 2012 12:07:34 GMT 1
[CSLA] Kevin, have you got a question for us?
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