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Post by Xmen on Feb 19, 2010 23:00:04 GMT 1
Y is there a connection with the Rhine crossing???
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Post by Major Pain on Feb 19, 2010 23:05:05 GMT 1
Y is there a connection with the Rhine crossing??? Nope.
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Post by evillittlekenny on Feb 19, 2010 23:07:53 GMT 1
Ok, you made me look up again, and I made a little mistake.
The operation (conference) started already on 09.08.1941. On 14.08.1941 happened the result of the bonus question.
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Post by Major Pain on Feb 19, 2010 23:22:25 GMT 1
@kenny Very Good. August 12, 1941 marks the anniversary of the creation of the Atlantic Charter by President Franklin Roosevelt and British Prime Minister Winston Churchill. Meeting in secret at Placentia Bay, Newfoundland, the two leaders spent time assessing the current situation and how they envisioned a postwar world to look. I did believe that this would be a bit more difficult. OK Kenny, you have earned the right to answer the Bonus Question. While the Atlantic Conference did lead to the creation of the Atlantic Charter, that is not the significant event that I am looking for. What was the effect of the Atlantic Charter? What significant event resulted? Everyone stand by. @kenny: You get the first guess, then if incorrect, it is open season.
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Post by evillittlekenny on Feb 19, 2010 23:35:24 GMT 1
Now there are a few things which are seen as results.
The Axis saw this as an alliance against them. This lead to more aggressive japanese behaviour towards GB & US.
Is it this?
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Post by Major Pain on Feb 19, 2010 23:54:15 GMT 1
While you are on the correct path, that is not exactly it; i.e. the big picture.
The Atlantic Charter actually lead to something alot bigger that is still very well in existence today.
@kenny: I'll give you one more try... before we open it up for everyone. I think you will get it and besides, you're already 75% of the way there.
Everyone hang on... he's about to tell us the answer...
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Post by evillittlekenny on Feb 19, 2010 23:56:38 GMT 1
I guess you mean the United Nations. The Atlantic Charta was one of the first steps to it.
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Post by Major Pain on Feb 19, 2010 23:59:37 GMT 1
Well done sir...
See what a little knowledge will get you?
It is your turn.
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The Atlantic Charter established a vision for a post-World War II world, despite the fact that the United States had yet to enter the war. The participants hoped that the Soviet Union would adhere as well, after having been attacked by Nazi Germany in June 1941 in defiance of the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact.
In brief, the eight points were:
1. No territorial gains were to be sought by the United States or the United Kingdom.
2. Territorial adjustments must be in accord with the wishes of the peoples concerned.
3. All peoples had a right to self-determination.
4. Trade barriers were to be lowered.
5. There was to be global economic cooperation and advancement of social welfare.
6. Freedom from want and fear.
7. Freedom of the seas.
8. Disarmament of aggressor nations, postwar common disarmament.
At the subsequent meeting of the Inter-Allied Council in St. James' Palace in London on September 24, 1941, the governments of Belgium, Czechoslovakia, Greece, Luxembourg, the Netherlands, Norway, Poland, the Soviet Union, Yugoslavia, and representatives of General Charles de Gaulle, leader of the Free French, unanimously adopted adherence to the common principles of policy set forth in the Atlantic Charter.[3] On January 1, 1942, a larger group of nations, who adhered to the principles of the Atlantic Charta, issued a Joint Declaration stressing their solidarity in the defence against Hitlerism.
The agreement proved to be one of the first steps towards the formation of the United Nations.
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Post by evillittlekenny on Feb 20, 2010 0:02:48 GMT 1
Thank you very much But I liked your question very much, I pass on to you (if you want).
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Post by Major Pain on Feb 20, 2010 0:08:37 GMT 1
@kenny
I am glad you liked the question. I tried to do a little more and get into some of the guts of events that had a significant impact as to WW2 and post-War.
I defer to you sir, please provide us some of your wisdom and ask us a question.
And, I am sorry you had to work so hard on the answer. But you will never forget it now.
MP
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Post by evillittlekenny on Feb 20, 2010 0:12:44 GMT 1
@kenny I am glad you liked the question. I tried to do a little more and get into some of the guts of events that had a significant impact as to WW2 and post-War. I defer to you sir, please provide us some of your wisdom and ask us a question. And, I am sorry you had to work so hard on the answer. But you will never forget it now. MP Ah, never mind I have to thank you, now I reviewed the theme thoroughly. And you are right, now I will never forget it My question is, does anyone know what the Minensuchgeraet 42 is?
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Post by Major Pain on Feb 20, 2010 1:03:01 GMT 1
That is a German Mine Sweeper (Detector) I believe. Wasn't that the Frankfurt 42? “Minensuchgerät Frankfurt 42″
The name “Frankfurt 42” is derived – as with the other mine detectors – from the location of the manufacturer, the company Max Braun in Frankfurt am Main and the year of the placing of order. www.lonesentry.com/articles/ttt/german-mine-detector-frankfurt-42.html
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Post by LouisXIV on Feb 20, 2010 13:07:17 GMT 1
You were half right Louis, I don't recall them being built in Northern India, but the CBI was the their sole operational theatre. Perhaps you recalled a repair depot or something. There was a factory in Calcutta, northern India that built Bristol Blenheims, and another that built Hurricanes. I don't know what model the Blenheim factory built, but they were later retooled to build Beaufighters, so they probably built the Mk V at some time. Pity I do not have that source available any more.
However, my source for the Mk V does specifically mention Blythe Bridge.
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Post by evillittlekenny on Feb 20, 2010 15:51:29 GMT 1
I didn't mean the Frankfurt. It's a more macabre story.
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Post by Major Pain on Feb 20, 2010 17:01:43 GMT 1
Then you must be looking for
Paragraph 2 of Article 42 of the Geneva Convention: which gives a Detaining Power permission to force prisoners of war to remove mines. In other words, it can force a prisoner of war to his death.
Notes: This was the subject of widespread debate and consideration. The French had used German POWs to clear mines and minefields after WW2. The French had reservations agreeing to the "Amendment" of Article 42 in 1949 which prohibitted POW use since it was their position that their country had suffered for so many years under occupation.
The Allies also forced German POWs to clear mines in Denmark during 1945; Denmark opposed the Amendment.
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