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Post by Jagged Steel on Sept 30, 2014 22:15:39 GMT 1
I see, Nick. Somewhere there is a thread about my tribulations a few years back when I built a new W7 rig and I ran into this same issue, and in the end I gave up and just copied an install from an old XP laptop I have. I know that isn't any help to you, but if you can find my old thread I think there were some suggestions on there which could solve your problem.
P.S: Another of my favorite games from the same era as BK is Railroad Tycoon 3, and I ended up copying an install from an XP install for it as well.
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Post by nick33 on Oct 1, 2014 8:11:15 GMT 1
With the help of Quintaxel, the windows 7 warning disappeared, but when i run the game.exe, the startup logo appears en then it crashes
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Post by Major Johnson on Jan 24, 2015 6:49:41 GMT 1
A question for you Windows 7 users. Are you using the 32 or 64 bit, and is it Home or Professional. I'm about to build a new pc and in the specs for Win7 Pro it specifically says there is an XP compatibility mode. I'm wondering if Nick33 is using Win7 Home, and that's why he can't get the game to run? I don't want to go thru all the time and expense of building a new pc and migrating data if one of my favorite games isn't gonna play on it.
Oh and are your CPUs Intel or AMD, and are they dual core or quad core??
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Post by Major Pain on Jan 24, 2015 12:52:57 GMT 1
You can Run in XP Mode on Win 7.
But it is better to add XP Virtual Window, but you must have Win 7 Pro.
I have a AMD Quad Core 64 Bit running Win 7 and do not need the Dual Core Patch.
I hope this helps.
*** I prefer to run Blitzkrieg on XP Pro. The Resource Demands on XP are within limits, even with Detailed Models and Graphics.
**** I also have Lynx Machines that run Blitzkrieg in Mint.
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Post by Scyooff on Jan 24, 2015 16:00:56 GMT 1
I recently installed Windows 7 Ultimate on an Intel Quad Core 64 Bit and i can run it from an external hard disc without dual core patch or XP compatibility mode.
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Post by Quintaxel on Jan 24, 2015 17:40:30 GMT 1
Recently running from an external thumbdrive - Intel Core I5 - Windows Ultimate, both 32 and 64 bit
- Intel Core I5 - Win7 Pro both 32 and 64 bit
- Intel Core I5 - Linux Ubuntu 14.4
- Intel Dual Core - Win7 Pro,32 bit
- Intel Centrino - Windows Ultimate, 32 bit
I have no experience with AMD processors. I'm not an expert, far from, but I have some experience with crashing computers (I'm known as "Mr Freeze" to our IT department) Honestly I think the processor is not the problem. It's more likely that the graphics card is the culprit. Maybe check this thread below. Similar problems (BK freezing) on a system with a GT 8600 graphics card are discussed here. esports.geforce.com/forums/topic/372791/geforce-drivers/problem-8600gt-freeze-randomly-in-3d-gaming-played-for-30min-1hr-freeze-music-loop/14I hope you can to solve this problem soon.
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Post by Major Johnson on Jan 24, 2015 18:40:42 GMT 1
Quintaxel, I've been having the freezing issue with all versions of BK ever since I put my system together over 7 yrs ago. The only components I've upgraded is the graphics card and pdu The system is listed below.
Major Pain can attest to my frustration with the game freeze. I've gone into detail in another thread. Last night while perusing these threads I came across to a link to a 2008 version of game.exe. I decided to give it a try and to my surprise I played Stalingrad last night for 3 hours, freeze free and without disabling one of the cores in my CPU. I was exuberant, but wary. This morning I've played about an hour and damn if it didn't freeze up on me again!! I'm at my wits end with this problem. I've tried messing with the sound acceleration setting since the sounds in the game go into an endless loop when the screen freezes, but to no avail, nothing seems to work. BK is the only game that has given me problems since I built this pc. I have all the components identified for my next pc, I just need to pay a few bills and shuffle some money around.
I appreciate all the Windows 7 input!! Thanks!!
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Post by Major Pain on Jan 24, 2015 19:08:54 GMT 1
As QUIN so eloquently put it... it is not the Processor... It is the Graphic Card....
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Post by Major Johnson on Jan 24, 2015 20:14:00 GMT 1
If it's the card, then it's been all the cards. As I said, I've upgraded the card, same problem. Now could be it's a problem with Nvidia cards, as all of my cards have been Nvidia.
I did check out that link to the Gforce forum. Some interesting suggestions there. I never thought of memory voltage, but why would it affect only one game?? And is BK considered a 3D game?? I wouldn't think so, but maybe it is. They also said something about the VIA chipset. I'm trying to find out what my chipset is now. But VIA does sound familiar for some reason.
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Post by Quintaxel on Jan 24, 2015 21:53:36 GMT 1
If you did not tweak the motherboard settings then the memory voltage should be OK as your power supply has ample juice for running your computer's configuration. Did you ever try to leave your desktop open while running to lower the temperature inside. AMD processors can get quite hot, hotter than Intel CPU's.
Another thing, and this may sound silly, is to remove the memory banks and put them back again. A poor contact in one of the memory banks could also cause the computer to freeze. This bad, intermittent, contact occurs when the computer gets hot. You could take out all memory and then put 2 GB back. Then play BK and see what happens. If the computer still freezes then replace the 2 GB with the 2 GB you put aside. This would at least exclude faulty RAM or a bad contact.
You say that freezing happens only with BK but do you run other programs for as long as you run BK ?
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Post by Major Johnson on Jan 25, 2015 0:10:09 GMT 1
Quin and Neph, The BK games are the only games I have this problem with. I've played much newer games all day, and I mean all day, and never have a problem. I would like to think that rules out memory or overheating due to intensive graphics. I have never tweaked any voltage gettings in my BIOS. The default settings have always worked just fine. I have airflow galore thru my case, 4 fans, and huge fan on my CPU. Right now my CPU core temps are 48 and 51 degrees centigrade. And I just had another crash in the game, but not a screen freeze, this was a game.exe, memory can not be read, after finishing a mission and trying to get to the next mission. I just can't win!! I've replayed the ending over and over and over, and still I get a memory error. I'm gonna try finishing the mission with the original game.exe that came with the game and see if that gets me to the next mission.
Does anyone else have an ASUS mobo?? I've picked the ASUS Sabertooth for my next one. I hope it's not an issue with ASUS mobos.
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Post by Quintaxel on Jan 25, 2015 0:20:49 GMT 1
Which BK releases, versions, did you play ? It's time for me to go to bed now. I'll check this threas again tomorrow.
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Post by Major Johnson on Jan 25, 2015 0:56:04 GMT 1
Just an update: I did revert to the original game.exe that came with Stalingrad and was able to get to the next mission. Call it co-incidence? Who knows. But also, I did remove the side from my pc case. Even with just starting the next mission, making a few groups and moving a few units around, the CPU temp is 10º cooler. Again, call it co-incidence?? I do not know. But I'm just happy to be onto the next mission. As for what I picked for my next rig, damn NewEgg didn't save my wish list!!! Now I'm gonna have to build it again. When I do I'll post it. I really do appreciate all the input!! I may only have under 100 posts at this time, but I'm not a rookie to BK, plus I was on the CDV boards. I found this forum when all the others closed down. Thank God you guys are still around!! And oh yeah, I have the original versions of BK1, Rolling Thunder and Burning Horizons. I started Mission Barbarossa a few years ago, but it was so hard due to the artillery range differences, I got discouraged. But after successfully playing these Stalingrad miissions, I'm feeling a little more confident and I've developed a few strategies to overcome the artillery ranges. I also have Mission Kursk, but I have yet to play it. I bought Anthology, just because I wanted it, and in case I ever loose or damage my original versions. Edit:1 Here's what I'm eyeing up for my next system: ASUS Sabertooth 990FX R2 AMD+AM3 990FX + SB950 SATA 6 GB USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard With UEFI BIOS AMD FX8350 Black Edition Vishera 8 Core 4.0 Ghz (4.2 Ghz Turbo) Socket AM3 + 125W Desktop Processor Rosewill Xtreme Series RX850-S-B 850W Continuous @40°C ,80 PLUS Certified, ATX12V v2.2 & EPS12V v2.91, SLI Ready CrossFire CORSAIR Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) 2 Samsung 850 EVO SSDs, 120 GB for the OS and 250 GB for Game installations I don't think I need to list the Case, CPU fan and extra case fans. Edit:3 On 2nd thought, considering it appears airflow does appear to be my problem as described below, maybe I should include the case and fans!! Rosewill CHALLENGER Black Gaming ATX Mid Tower Computer Case, comes with Three Fans-1x Front Blue LED 120mm Fan, 1x Top 140mm Fan, 1x Rear 120mm Fan, option Fans-2x Side 120mm Fan Rosewill 120mm Computer Case Fan (Case Cooling Fan) - Transparent Frame & 4 Blue LEDs, Sleeve Bearing, Silent Fan with LP4 Adapter (Pack of 2); ROCF-13002 be quiet! Pure Rock CPU Cooler A question on the optional side fans. Which way should the air be flowing, in or out of the case?? Edit:2 And an update on my last session. I played a whole mission from start to finish, at least 4 hours, with the one side of the case off and I didn't have one freeze. It was also with the original game.exe that came with the game, and without disabling one of my cores. I find it hard to believe that an older game can cause my graphics card cpu to overheat like no other game. But I guess that must be it. Well scratch that.......I started up the game just a few minutes ago, leaving it on pause while I surveyed the map, and it froze in 3 minutes. I beginning to believe it's a combination of reasons, all pointing to it's time to upgrade. One last edit. In reseating my memory and cleaning the fan fins of the graphics card I accidently unplugged the rear fan. Now seeing how the side panel was, for all intensive purposes off, I don't know why that would have made a difference, but after hooking up that fan and totally removing the side panel, I played flawlessly for about 5 hours. Yes, I love this game!
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Post by Major Johnson on Mar 5, 2015 23:52:02 GMT 1
Just a little update.
I finally got my new pc up and running (which reminds me, I guess I have to update my signiature!) and I'm pleased to say I played Stalingrad today for about 2 hours and not one game freeze. I was very surprised to see how much cooler this 8 core cpu runs as compared to my dual core. 9º on this new cpu in comparison to mid 30º on my old!! And I have a heavy duty cooling fan!! On the new cpu U just used the fan that came with it. Nothing special at all!! But at least I can finally put this issue behind me and enjoy some gaming!!
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Post by Quintaxel on Mar 6, 2015 17:39:34 GMT 1
Your new machine is 'slightly overpowered' to play BK. Just compare the specs of your 'monster machine' with the recommended specs needed to run BK being a; - Pentium III 800 MHz - 128 MB RAM - DirectX8.1-compatible, T&L-enabled graphics card with 32 MB Incredible isn't it. Enjoy gaming.
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